Swami:
Oh Nikhil! How are you? Are you Happy?
Nikhil:
Swami I am happy by your divine grace on me
Except some little mental disturbances that worried me
Swami:
Oh Husband of Devi! Try to enjoy the worry
When worry is inevitable, enjoy it and be wise
Even continued happiness leads to mental worry
Thus happiness and worry must be alternative
If you are worried by the continued happiness
You are worried at the cost of the result of your good effort
Instead of this it is better to get worry at the cost of your sin
Let the sin give some trouble and then you worry out of it
In this way the result of the sin is spent and the not the result of good effort
The loss in your present worry may be compensated in the future
But the time lost in your past worry cannot be compensated
Because the life span of any human being is fixed
Your loss may be compensated by million times in the future
But even one second of your lost time can never be compensated
Therefore, understand this and think about the value of the time
This knowledge of the value of time is called as ‘Kala Janana’
Which means the knowledge of the future that you should know,
Which provides the possibility of the compensation of all the loss
Except the loss of time, therefore, time is the most precious.
You may waste anything that can be again procured in the future,
But never waste the time, which you can never compensate.
There are two ways to escape the mental worry in this world
The first way is by obtaining the peace, which is zero
The second way is by achieving the bliss, which is plus
Worry is minus, peace is zero and bliss is plus
To escape minus, either you should be in zero or in plus
Bliss can be obtained only from the Lord in this world
Since the Veda says that the Lord alone is bliss “Anando Brahma”
The Veda also says that the Lord alone can give you the bliss
“Esha Hyeva Anandayati” this is quite logical in fact
The water is alone cool and so it alone can give coolness
Whatever is said in the Vedas, it is always logical
Now the important point is “Where is the Lord?”
The Lord is neither formless nor energetic bodies nor inert statue
Since all these are not giving the knowledge to you as can be seen
The Knowledge and bliss are inseparable homogenous mixture
Both these two are the components present in the single phase
For example, we say that the sunlight is white as well as hot
You cannot isolate the white colour and the heat in the sunlight
If any of these two is present, the other one must co-exist
Sunlight is white and hot simultaneously when experienced
A wall may be white but it is not hot and so it is not sunlight
The red fire may be hot but not white and so it is not sunlight
Therefore, if its is sunlight it must be white and hot simultaneously
If one characteristic is only seen it must not be sunlight
It may be anything other than the sunlight
Similarly, the bliss and the knowledge co-exist simultaneously
If it is Brahman, if one alone is seen, it is not Brahman
The Veda says that Brahman is having these two characteristics simultaneously
If it is Brahman it must give knowledge and bliss simultaneously
Any thing in the world may give you bliss alone, it is not Brahman
Because Brahman is bliss and knowledge simultaneously as per Veda
Lakshman:
Swami I have a small doubt here in this context
The bliss is present in a human being, which has some awareness
The awareness of any object is also called as knowledge, may be little
In that case the bliss is always associated with the knowledge
Now the bliss must be treated as Brahman, since it is associated with knowledge
Swami:
Bliss cannot exist in a non-living inert object
Definitely bliss must exist in a living being only, which has life energy
Life energy means awareness and that may be the awareness of anything
Awareness of the Lord and to please the Lord is only called as knowledge
Awareness of worldly items cannot be called as the real knowledge
It is only the knowledge of the world, which is not the absolute Truth
The Veda says “Satyam Jnanam” which means that Brahman is true knowledge
True knowledge alone is the greatest of all types of knowledge
The Veda says “Prajnanam Brahma” which means greatest knowledge is Brahman
Knowledge of subjects like mathematics and physics cannot be Prajnanam
When the worldly subjects cannot be Prajnanam in this context
How can you refer mere awareness as Prajnanam?
The inert objects do not have even the basic awareness, as they are non-living
The plants have very mild awareness, which is life energy
Birds and animals have little awareness, which cannot be called as knowledge
The human beings have high awareness, which can be called as knowledge
Knowledge is called as Jnanam, which is the knowledge of this world
Prajnanam which is the knowledge of God, is only with human incarnation
Philosophical preachers may have the knowledge of God,
They have the true knowledge but that is limited knowledge only.
To get the full picture, the knowledge should be true as well as complete
If somebody touches the leg of the elephant and says that
The elephant is like a pillar the knowledge is partially true
Since it is incomplete, it is not giving the total picture of the elephant
The knowledge of the leg is not false because the leg is true
But it is not complete. Therefore, it cannot be useful to understand the elephant
Therefore, the Veda says “Satyam Jnanam Anantam”, which means that
The knowledge Brahman is not only true but also unlimited
Brahman is not only true but also unlimited
Therefore the knowledge of Brahman should be true and unlimited
The word knowledge used here means this unlimited true knowledge.
The word unlimited means complete, because limited knowledge is incomplete
Moreover the word knowledge is never used for mere awareness in the world
We don’t say that an animal or bird has knowledge
If knowledge means simple awareness, then in the world we must have heard
That the animal or bird is having knowledge.
Therefore either formless or energetic body or a statue is not giving knowledge
You may derive bliss from these but you are not hearing the knowledge
I can see that you are deriving bliss from these objects, I am satisfied
I accept that you got bliss because I see the bliss in your face
But I have no proof for the knowledge received by you from these objects
Knowledge is transferred by words and not through silence
In the world we are not seeing any teacher teaching through silence
The knowledge requires teacher, student and method of transmission
The method of transmission can never be silence
Silence represents God, no doubt in it, but you should know this fact
Unless you know this fact through words you cannot understand this
The teacher should say that God is beyond word and is indicated by silence
Now if the teacher keeps silent, the student understands
That his silence indicates Brahman, if the teacher does not say this
And goes on keeping silent, the student cannot know that the silence is Brahman
The student will think that the teacher is unable to explain and hence silent
How do you distinguish between these two? Unless you are taught
That silence is Brahman, the silence may represent Brahman
The silence may also represent the complete ignorance of Brahman
I cannot distinguish these two unless I am taught in the beginning itself
That silence is Brahman because it is beyond imagination and words
Therefore, knowledge without words is impossible as seen in the world
You can get the knowledge only from the human incarnation
And it should be from the present human incarnation only
Because the past incarnations have gone and cannot speak a word
Even the energetic body that may appear to you and may speak
The vision of the energetic body is only a for a few seconds
It can speak a few words only but not clear the doubts completely
Moreover a few fortunate people who have done long penance can alone get
Such rare opportunity but this concept is not universal and many cannot see it
Therefore this cannot be an authority with reference to entire world
In the case of human incarnation, all can come easily and hear fully
Therefore human incarnation is the only authority in giving knowledge
Everywhere the universal perception should be the basis of authority
In that case science is also satisfied because scientists believe this only
Knowledge should be scientific, and then only it can be systematic
Of course the Lord is above the science, which is the logic in this world
But you are not above the science and your ways must be scientific
You must detect the Lord who is above the science through scientific ways only
Science is the nature and through the natural rules only you can catch the Lord
You cannot catch the Lord directly because you are not above the nature
You are a part of the nature and therefore your ways cannot be supernatural.
When it is impossible to adopt the ways above the nature
How can you catch the Lord who is beyond this nature?
Nature is creation and the Lord is the creator
Creator is beyond the creation as we can see in the world itself
The pot maker is different from the pot and therefore stick to nature
Infact owing to this limitation of yourself, the Lord is coming down
He enters the best part of the nature, which is the human being
The word Brahman means the best; human being is the best in the world
Therefore, human beings is called Brahman within the boundary of the world
Brahman is greater than the greatest and therefore is the ultimate greatest.
When such Brahman enters the world, He will enter the best part only
When the king enters the town, he enters the best house in the town.
He cannot enter a worst hut, which is below his dignity.
Therefore Brahman can never enter any inert object, which is the lowest
Brahman also will not enter trees birds and animals because
They are higher than the inert object but not the highest.
The advaita scholars are mislead at this juncture because
When it is told that the human being is Brahman, they understood
That the human being is the ultimate highest, but it is not so,
This is the reason why the Lord is called Para Brahman
Para Brahman means greater than Brahman that is greater than the human being
You can experience Him through the human incarnation
Thus you’re experiencing Him through nature and everything is setup
But the human incarnation may not be available to everybody in the world
This is not because of His non-availability but because of the jealousy and egoism
That cover the two eyes of every human being like the layers obstructing the vision
For such a blind fellow the second way is there, to escape from the worry
The second part is peace, peace also removes the worry and solves the problem
Peace can be obtained by becoming the Self through the self-analysis
Self-analysis means attaining the self through logical discrimination
Self is pure awareness and is beyond the qualities as well as the five elements
The qualities or feelings of mind constitute the inner subtle body
The five elements constitute the outermost gross body
The self is the innermost awareness, which is beyond these two bodies
You have to fix the meaning of the word “I” to this self only
By discrimination you can do this, which is very easy
When you fix yourself in the soul, neither you are gross body
Nor you are the subtle body and therefore you have crossed all worries
The worries of the body and the worries of body-relatives cannot touch you
Since you have lost the feelings, you do not feel at all for the gross body
The link between the soul and the gross body is the subtle body
When you have crossed the subtle body, the link is cut and therefore
You will not at all feel about the gross body and its other external bonds
When your body or your son is worried you do not get the worry
Since you have crossed the gross body, you have crossed the stream of the blood
The blood stream is flowing in the gross body only
You do not feel the blood as your blood since the feeling is lost
Therefore you remain in the pure awareness, which is not linked to the gross body
Since the subtle body, which is the link is also crossed by you.
Some people think that the peace obtained by self-achievement is the bliss
Some people think that no loss is profit, but it is not true
You have achieved the peace within yourself and from your self only
You have not lost the peace, which is your inherent property of your soul
Bliss is obtained from the Lord, which is the external property or profit
Absence of worry is called as happiness but it is not bliss
Bliss is defined as the infinitely, intensive, continuous happiness
The peace is not intense happiness and is not also continuous.
You may achieve the peace by fixing your “I” to the soul
But after sometime the ignorance will drag you down and fix you with gross body
The subtle body arises after sometime and links your “I” to the gross body
Thus the happiness is not continuous and therefore cannot be bliss
But some people stick to the soul and do not link to the gross body
They destroy the subtle body by destroying all the qualities of the self
The water becomes stand still since, all the waves are subsided
This is called as “Manolaya” or permanent destruction of mind
They remain in the soul forever and have continuous happiness
Yet, it cannot be bliss because it is not infinitely intensive
Therefore to think that you have become Brahman by achieving self is not correct
But remember, bliss should not be ultimate goal of the spiritual path
Because even bliss is selfish and so cannot please the Lord
If you are pleased, what is the use? The Lord should be pleased by you
Happiness is heaven and achieving the bliss from the Lord is
Above the heaven and doing service for the sake of the bliss of the Lord is
The highest abode which is called as Satyaloka or the Brahmaloka
To give bliss to the Lord you may have to invite lot of mental worries
Such mental worry is different from the old mental worry
The old mental worries was for your body and for the relatives of your body
The present mental worry is for the sake of the Lord and is filled with sacrifice
Therefore the bliss is impure as long as you are aiming it for your self
When the bliss is filtered from the impurity of the selfishness, it is pure bliss
The pure bliss means that you are prepared for any type of mental worry
In the service of the Lord, to please the Lord with bliss.
Hanuman was wounded several times in the war but he felt happy only
Because the wounds were received to please the Lord
Such selfless bliss can alone give the highest place called Brahmaloka
You can get happiness in the heaven but it is not continuous
Since you will be thrown out as soon as result of your good effort ends
If you receive bliss from the Lord, you will go to the three worlds
Which are above heaven and below the Brahmaloka.